
First lady Jill Biden gave what is likely her last interview before she and her husband, President Joe Biden, leave the White House and she did not mince words about her feelings on former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“Let’s just say I was disappointed with how it unfolded,” she said in the interview with The Washington Post regarding how Pelosi was reportedly behind the push to have Joe Biden drop his reelection bid.
“Why?” the reporter said.
“I don’t know. I learned a lot about human nature,” the first lady said before being pressed and saying, “I think that’s all I’m going to say.”
But that was not all she said.
The reporter got to direct questions about Pelosi, who famously said, when asked if President Biden was going to stay in the campaign against President-elect Donald Trump, “It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run,” after Biden already said he was staying in the hunt for the White House.
“Like I said,” the first lady said to The Washington Post reporter, “I’ve been thinking a lot about relationships.”
“It’s been on my mind a lot lately, and — ” Jill continued before a pause and then began using her “teacher’s voice,” according to the reporter.
“We were friends for 50 years,” she said. “It was disappointing.”
It may be the reason the first lady appeared so happy when Trump visited the White House and why the two got along so well at the opening ceremony for the Notre Dame Cathedral in France.
Trump stated that his private conversation with Jill inside the cathedral was a positive interaction despite their long history of exchanging harsh remarks during the two election cycles, the New York Post reported.
“Very nice. She couldn’t have been nicer,” Trump said about their talk.
“It’s politics. You have to get used to it,” he said regarding political differences in the past. “She was very nice, and we had a very nice conversation.”
Trump also revealed insights from his discussions with global leaders during that first international trip since securing a second term, including a trilateral meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
“He wants to make peace,” Trump told the New York Post in a phone interview of Zelensky. “That’s new.”
“He wants to have a ceasefire,” he added. “He wants to make peace. We didn’t talk about the details. He thinks it’s time, and Putin should think it’s time because he’s lost — when you lose 700,000 people, it’s time. It’s not going to end until there’s a peace.”
Trump said he spoke to Zelensky about how to end the nearly three-year-old war that began in February 2022. “I’m formulating a concept of how to end that ridiculous war,” said Trump.
He also pointed to his Truth Social post, where he mentioned Russia in the context of the fall of the Syrian government.
“What happened there was Russia was not able to step up to the plate because they were all bogged down in this horrible war that never should have happened in Ukraine,” he said.
Trump also disclosed that he discussed NATO with Macron, reiterating his belief that the alliance members should “pay their fair share.”
“I said NATO is good as long as they pay their bills, but they gotta pay their bills because, you know, when I got involved with NATO, nobody paid, and then they paid after I got involved,” the president-elect said.
“He agrees with me,” Trump said of the French president. “He’s a good man. He did a good job. I told him, ‘you have no idea how good a job you did’ on that chapel. That’s very hard to do. Painstaking.”
The former president made headlines with his firm handshake with Macron, gripping his hand from above.
“It’s just a firm shake. He understands that. It’s just a firm shake,” he said of the shake.